The Journey 80. Kris Millegan: Magic, Mysticism and Current Events

Publisher Kris Millegan talks with Bruce de Torres about spirituality, magic and mysticism (which helped Kris understand Skull and Bones, the secret society at Yale University that has placed members throughout our government, media and cultural institutions), the mis- and dis-information being fire-hosed at us, and the right way to live on earth (being kind to our mother earth and all our brothers and sisters). (See Antony Sutton’s book “America’s Secret Establishment: An Introduction to The Order of Skull and Bones” at TrineDaydotcom.)

Kris: Before I started studying conspiracy, I ran across Aleister Crowley and Edgar Cayce [when I was in high school]. I found everything that I could read about both of those people, to study magic and mysticism. And I’m very glad I did because it helped me understand Skull and Bones and how they operate.

Mysticism is kind of “we’re all one” and there are many different schools of thought. During the 1960s there was quite a bit going on. LSD is a very interesting substance. It was basically part of the illusion mysteries. [Because its components can be derived from nature,] It’s been around for millennia.

One of my posits has been that our news media and our education system haven’t been doing us very good. And part of that has been because of the secret societies and their introduction into our civic life in a nefarious way.

Bruce: How would you describe your fondest hopes of the nature of reality and spirituality?

Kris: When you look at quote-unquote magic … Basically magic is a form of mind control. It’s a form of training the mind to do certain things, to train the will. Beyond magic you have alchemy. And you have a couple forms of alchemy. You have a Daoist alchemy [“Taoism or Daoism refers to either a school of philosophical thought or to a religion; both … emphasize living in harmony with the Tao.” Wikipedia], where you have the mind and you have the fire of the heart and you bring the spirit into the mind which is the cauldron, [into] the heart fire. It’s a form of meditation and a form of understanding who you are [and] why you are here.

And another form of alchemy has to do with the relational value of numbers, of unital values. The human body is a one unital value. The earth is a one unital value. You have relationships between those unital values that are very strong. You have a thing that says zero equals two. Because how can you have anything without something to compare it to? You can’t have one thing without having something else because you couldn’t have one thing just by itself. That’s where you get zero equals two.

Bruce: An idea that gives me fun, which equals power to me, is that if the only thing that exists is an infinite and eternal consciousness – if that’s our source, if that’s the real us – I like to imagine that that infinite and eternal consciousness has created this experience of perceiving, like you just said, an other, in order to perceive or experience anything. Why is it doing this? I’m going to say, “For the fun of it.”

Kris: Existence comes out of itself. [Apparently perpetually.]

Bruce: Life bringing forth life bringing forth life.

Kris: And meeting itself. And hopefully meeting itself in a hug rather than a slap.