The Journey 109. Phillip F. Nelson: Did LBJ Hoax Apollo II?

Publisher Kris Millegan speaks with Phil Nelson about LBJ, Phil’s TrineDay book REMEMBER THE LIBERTY: Almost Sunk by Treason on the High Seas – about Israel’s attack on a U.S. Naval ship, in collusion with President Johnson – and the Apollo II moon landing and the evidence that it was faked. Phil’s website is LBJthemasterofdeceit(dot)com.

Kris: How did you stumble onto LBJ being not so truthful?

Phil: That happened on February 20^th, 1961. The principal came on the high school PA and announced there had been an airplane crash on his ranch, but don’t worry. The vice president was on the ground. It was just the pilots that were in the plane. That just sounded so strange to me then. That caused me thinking that there’s something wrong with this. And that impression never went away.

Then in 1962, the news about Billie Sol Estes was on every newscast. A conman from southwest Texas doing weird frauds with the government. Rarely did you see Johnson’s name. The reporters understood that you had to keep his name out of it.

It did come out in LIFE magazine, in 1962, and in 1963, Bobby Baker became the centerpiece in all the discussions about scandals. And in 1964, J. Evetts Haley’s book came out [A TEXAN LOOKS AT LYNDON], and it described in more detail what happened in ’61 with that airplane crash. And it became just stranger than hell. And it just added to the list.

Kris: I remember all those scandals [involving people related to LBJ]. You [started writing about] the Kennedy assassination. And then a book with us about the USS Liberty. It seems to me that that cover story has pretty much blown up. Is there anybody still pushing the cover story as true history?

Phil: Well, Israel still does, and people who write books about [the attack] with [both governments’] stamp of approval. There’s never really been an actual investigation by Congress or any other government agency. The Navy slammed one together within a week. And of course, it was just a lot of nonsense.

Kris: You’ve been releasing quite a bit of information on your blog, on your site, about the moon landing. There’s some obvious things to look at. What have you discovered? What’s your take on it these days?

Phil: I always questioned it because LBJ was president at the time, and if it was a hoax, then axiomatically, he was the creator of it, in my opinion. And I think definitely there was a hoax at the Apollo II launch.

In my first blog [July 24, 2022], there was a conversation between JFK and James Webb, who was basically telling him that they were not going to be able to put a man on the moon [by JFK’s goal, the end of the decade] because of all of the technical problems and issues [they were dealing with].

So here comes LBJ after him. I think he knew that [the landing] would be unachievable. But they wanted to do it as a national security thing, to prove to the world how all-powerful the United States was. Johnson was just the kind of guy that. If he was told it was not possible, he would find a way around that in some way. And he was devious. From the time he was a child, he played these kinds of games, these hoaxes, whenever he could. He loved doing this stuff.

I am not advocating this. I am laying out [what I found] so that you, the reader, can decide. I said, there’s a very compelling case to be made here, with a lot of citations. Specifically a video shot a few months after the supposed lunar landing [of Apollo II] of the three astronauts [Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins] in an interview. And I featured it in the blog. You can slide right to 3 hours and 24 minutes. And then you can watch how the three astronauts were stoic. Expressionless. Even a grimace. They just could not talk.

They were on stage. They were asked a question. “When you were there, on the moon, could you see stars from there?” Because you couldn’t see stars from that blackened view [on television] that everybody remembers.

I thought, how could they sit there like the accused being tried or something like that? They were afraid to say things, or to answer that question, particularly, because they really didn’t know. Evidently, they just hadn’t been up there. That’s the only possible reason why, I think, they could not answer that question.

The man who created this video, Bart Sibrel [author of MOON MAN: The True Story of a Filmmaker on the CIA Hit List], offered them five thousand dollars, if they would swear to the question, “Would you swear to the fact that you were on the moon?” And they all refused.